I'm one of those listeners who thinks every genre of music has something in it that is good in some way. Some genres get a bad wrap because they are overly suffocated with drivel. Some genres are fairly derivative of something else and add nothing to the formula other than, "How do we make this more marketable to teenagers?"

But that doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there who is objectively talented at music, and that if you put any rules in front of them for what to make, they have the range to create something respectable.

In the case of MySpace era scenecore: that's exactly what you have: Small town kids all over America who get all their music from MTV get on the Internet for the first time and log into MySpace. They have no association to punk, hardcore, screamo, or anything in that world.

They've never been to an underground show. They've never scoured for rare albums in a vinyl shop. They are hyper consumerist kids that shop at Hot Topic and that's it. It's ironic that we called them "scene kids" because they have no association to an underground music scene prior to getting on the Internet.

In the 2000's there was a lot of bitterness about this from people who were forged in the hardcore scene. Their culture was being replaced by a more consumer friendly version of themselves.

But that's all ancient history now. Although it was genuinely sad at the time, anyone that still cares about that really needs to grow up.

Because I've always been open minded about music even though I didn't necessarily like the culture this stuff came from, I listened to several of these albums and these are some of the ones I still go back to.

Saosin

Translating the Name

The whole album ngl.

A Skylit Drive

She Watched the Sky

• The Past, the Love, the Memory
• According to Columbus

And uhh... I'm sure there are others. I will update this page if I ever think of them.

if you're gay or LGBT or whatever like that

Don't say I never did anything for you, speaking up for your music like this.